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wesleyc6
04-08-2013, 08:37 AM
So who is pulling what this year? Wild or captive bred, just want to hear who is planning to raise a little down grenade.

goshawks00
04-08-2013, 10:39 AM
I may be raising a pair or three of males goshawks together and trying a dual/triple hack with them. There has been some interest in this by perspective buyers and it is intriguing to me also. we'll see. You?

rehabber
04-08-2013, 11:04 AM
I will be imprinting a female saker and a female lanner for breeding. I will also be imprinting a female Barbary for a friend, did a gyrkin for her last year and she is very happy with him.
Hope to also have a superb tiercel if a friend breeds one for me, as a future hat bird.
Busy times ahead.

wesleyc6
04-08-2013, 11:15 AM
I may be raising a pair or three of males goshawks together and trying a dual/triple hack with them. There has been some interest in this by perspective buyers and it is intriguing to me also. we'll see. You?


sounds like a big experiment. Hope you will keep us posted for that! I want to imprint something small. Sharpshinned is first choice, merlin is second choice. Been a few years since I have flown anything truly small.

skooky20
04-08-2013, 04:49 PM
I hope to be imprinting my first goshawk this year. will be hitting the woods next week looking for them.

FredFogg
04-08-2013, 06:53 PM
I may be imprinting either a gyr/prairie or a goshawk or both this summer, that is, if I can make them. frus)

42fleet
04-08-2013, 10:36 PM
I hope to pull 2 goshawk this year

Goshawk635
04-09-2013, 12:45 AM
We will see what the nest woods reveal but a sharpy is always welcome.

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag97/phil635/CoryampMo3_zps3fd28671.jpg
http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag97/phil635/MotheShin_zpsa163a39a.jpg
http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag97/phil635/1a718626-d951-46b6-b714-d0139d67afc7_zpsedfe1f39.jpg

rocgwp
04-09-2013, 11:18 PM
I'll be imprinting a male NA goshawk

Bryant Tarr
04-10-2013, 09:34 AM
I am hoping to do a tame-hack and would love to find a sharpy nest. I may end up with a coop, probably a tierce if I can help it. I may end up with nothing...we shall see! But I'll be out on the prowl.

Dennis Samnee
04-12-2013, 06:13 PM
Hey pal,
If you don't find a sharpie or a Coops nest ,if you want to come a visit.I will put you up and I should be able to take you to a Coops nest.I have one about a half mi from the house.
Dennis

Bryant Tarr
04-12-2013, 08:50 PM
Very kind of you Dennis! I'm hoping to avoid any interstate travel / permit issues...but your offer is very tempting :)

wesleyc6
05-17-2013, 09:47 AM
I am hoping to do a tame-hack and would love to find a sharpy nest. I may end up with a coop, probably a tierce if I can help it. I may end up with nothing...we shall see! But I'll be out on the prowl.


Did you find you a nest? Ought to be about that time up there for them to be on the nest, right?

wesleyc6
05-17-2013, 09:48 AM
I hope to be imprinting my first goshawk this year. will be hitting the woods next week looking for them.

Find a nest?

skooky20
05-17-2013, 09:53 PM
Yes i have 2 nests lined up so as long as nothing happens to them between now and when i pull i should have a goshawk.

wesleyc6
05-17-2013, 10:05 PM
Yes i have 2 nests lined up so as long as nothing happens to them between now and when i pull i should have a goshawk.

Great news. How many weeks you gotta wait now?

Bryant Tarr
05-18-2013, 11:30 AM
Did you find you a nest? Ought to be about that time up there for them to be on the nest, right?

No, but I can't say I tried very hard. I checked two spots where I have found coops before with no luck but didn't exactly scour the landscape.

Have recently become overwhelmed at work with Whooping Crane eggs coming in from abandoned nests in the reintroduced population nesting in Wisconsin and am now thinking I won't have time to do this right. That's the problem with being a bird-breeder for a living...all the action at work happens right when I'd be needing time to raise an eyass hawk. Might just stick with passage birds! :)

falcon56
05-18-2013, 01:43 PM
No, but I can't say I tried very hard. I checked two spots where I have found coops before with no luck but didn't exactly scour the landscape.

Have recently become overwhelmed at work with Whooping Crane eggs coming in from abandoned nests in the reintroduced population nesting in Wisconsin and am now thinking I won't have time to do this right. That's the problem with being a bird-breeder for a living...all the action at work happens right when I'd be needing time to raise an eyass hawk. Might just stick with passage birds! :)

Bryant,
Why not just imprint a whooping crane under the guise of "scientific research"? It'll satisfy that urge to bond with something feathered. I'm imprinting a wonderful little female grey call duck(not by choice)since late April. "Shep" is as entertaining and sweet as any imprint gyr or merlin I've ever had.
Ray

Bryant Tarr
05-18-2013, 01:51 PM
Bryant,
Why not just imprint a whooping crane under the guise of "scientific research"? It'll satisfy that urge to bond with something feathered. I'm imprinting a wonderful little female grey call duck(not by choice)since late April. "Shep" is as entertaining and sweet as any imprint gyr or merlin I've ever had.
Ray

Ha! Yes, crane chicks are cuties when they are little, but you ain't seen nothin' in terms of imprint aggression until you've seen a big male Red-Crowned or Siberian crane that wants to kick your ass! :eek: My arms and legs are ripped to shreds during AI season!

The Whooping Crane in my Avatar is a pretty bad-ass dude himself. He is 31 years old and draws blood on me regularly....of course I draw semen out of him 3 times a week, so it's only fair I guess! peacee

JRedig
05-18-2013, 02:29 PM
Very kind of you Dennis! I'm hoping to avoid any interstate travel / permit issues...but your offer is very tempting :)

I've got some coops nests too, would have to go pinpoint them, but permit is free over here!

Bryant Tarr
05-18-2013, 02:47 PM
I've got some coops nests too, would have to go pinpoint them, but permit is free over here!

Temptations...temptations!

sevristh
05-18-2013, 03:15 PM
He is 31 years old and draws blood on me regularly....of course I draw semen out of him 3 times a week, so it's only fair I guess! peacee

:eek:

No.....no, it's not even close to fair in my book! HAHA!!

skooky20
05-18-2013, 03:52 PM
Will be pulling june first if everything goes to plan

wesleyc6
05-18-2013, 03:54 PM
Will be pulling june first if everything goes to plan

Ah just one more saturday to wait and then one to go!!! Take plenty of pics/video for us!clapp

FredFogg
05-18-2013, 04:16 PM
Will be pulling june first if everything goes to plan

And of course, a thread will be started with lots of pictures and narration! LOL :D Definitely keep us informed!

You are doing another thing on my bucket list! You are soooooo lucky to have goshawks in your area. And after I win this 800 million tonight, I will be moving somewhere that I can pull and trap goshawks. Well, not really moving, just purchasing 10,000 acres of prime goshawk territroy! :eek: peacee

Bryant Tarr
05-18-2013, 04:41 PM
Will be pulling june first if everything goes to plan

Awesome! Good luck Chris!

skooky20
05-18-2013, 07:05 PM
Plenty of pics will be taken this is one of my dreams coming to life for me. The waiting is killing me. I just wish my father was still with us so he could see the look on my face when that white fluff ball is lowered to my awaiting hands. He was a falconer for many years and he loved goshawks.

Ken S.
05-19-2013, 04:09 PM
Congrats Chris, I'm excited for you!

hcmcelroy
05-20-2013, 10:20 AM
Chris,

I hope you will give us a blow by blow description of raising your little bundle of joy. Reading the details is almost like being there.

Harry.

falcon56
05-20-2013, 10:47 AM
Okay, so I'm feeling a little "back shelved' here. How come nobody seems to be interested in a blow by blow description of raising my imprint call duckling?:D

Hunner
05-20-2013, 12:06 PM
Ray,
I really think you're kind of holding out on everybody. You probably don't feel the intensity for info. Give it up man! We need photos of "Old Shep". Believe me when I say we are on the edge of our seat. I'm about ready to quack up!
All the best Ray
Allen

rkumetz
05-20-2013, 12:09 PM
Okay, so I'm feeling a little "back shelved' here. How come nobody seems to be interested in a blow by blow description of raising my imprint call duckling?:D

Sure Ray, while we are waiting for Chris to pull his gos tell us all about it. You can be like one of those "human interest" stories that CNN airs when they don't have any real news. :D

falcon56
05-20-2013, 01:46 PM
Well, since you all won't give me a moments rest. "Pulled" her at 1 day of age, usual imprinting procedure in the house until she became to mobile, then outside. Pretty pleased she's not a screamer, but she does have a tendency to peep quite a bit, tho lately her voice is changing and is getting close to a quack. She is a bit grabby when I feed her wax and meal worms, no mantling tho & using a remote clicker to bridge positive behavior etc. but doesn't seem to be getting through to her. "Shep" because she heels better than any dog I've ever had, and who in their right mind would name a duck, "Fido" or "Rover"- I mean, c'mon!

FredFogg
05-20-2013, 03:03 PM
Well, since you all won't give me a moments rest. "Pulled" her at 1 day of age, usual imprinting procedure in the house until she became to mobile, then outside. Pretty pleased she's not a screamer, but she does have a tendency to peep quite a bit, tho lately her voice is changing and is getting close to a quack. She is a bit grabby when I feed her wax and meal worms, no mantling tho & using a remote clicker to bridge positive behavior etc. but doesn't seem to be getting through to her. "Shep" because she heels better than any dog I've ever had, and who in their right mind would name a duck, "Fido" or "Rover"- I mean, c'mon!

Again Ray, no one is going to believe you until we see pictures! LOL :D

rkumetz
05-20-2013, 03:07 PM
Well, since you all won't give me a moments rest. "Pulled" her at 1 day of age, usual imprinting procedure in the house until she became to mobile, then outside. Pretty pleased she's not a screamer, but she does have a tendency to peep quite a bit, tho lately her voice is changing and is getting close to a quack. She is a bit grabby when I feed her wax and meal worms, no mantling tho & using a remote clicker to bridge positive behavior etc. but doesn't seem to be getting through to her. "Shep" because she heels better than any dog I've ever had, and who in their right mind would name a duck, "Fido" or "Rover"- I mean, c'mon!

Are you doing a tame hack? Using lots of baggies?

bobpayne
05-20-2013, 03:49 PM
Plenty of pics will be taken this is one of my dreams coming to life for me. The waiting is killing me. I just wish my father was still with us so he could see the look on my face when that white fluff ball is lowered to my awaiting hands. He was a falconer for many years and he loved goshawks.


Wow, what do you mean lowered to my awaiting hands?confusedd

Don't miss the really exciting part of lifting yourself 50 to 80 ft up the tree to your waiting eyas, what about the sounds of Kakking echoing through the woods, and the tearing of cloth and flesh when the parent tries to remove you from the side of the tree like some over-sized fisher? And then peaking of the rim of the nest and looking into its bowl crazyy

There is nothing like pulling your eyas from the top of some big assed tree, go for it! :eek:

rkumetz
05-20-2013, 05:13 PM
Wow, what do you mean lowered to my awaiting hands?confusedd

Don't miss the really exciting part of lifting yourself 50 to 80 ft up the tree to your waiting eyas, what about the sounds of Kakking echoing through the woods, and the tearing of cloth and flesh when the parent tries to remove you from the side of the tree like some over-sized fisher? And then peaking of the rim of the nest and looking into its bowl crazyy

There is nothing like pulling your eyas from the top of some big assed tree, go for it! :eek:

I agree but don't take our word for it. Ask Scott van Gogh errr I mean McNeff. crazyy

FredFogg
05-20-2013, 07:05 PM
Well, since you all won't give me a moments rest. "Pulled" her at 1 day of age, usual imprinting procedure in the house until she became to mobile, then outside. Pretty pleased she's not a screamer, but she does have a tendency to peep quite a bit, tho lately her voice is changing and is getting close to a quack. She is a bit grabby when I feed her wax and meal worms, no mantling tho & using a remote clicker to bridge positive behavior etc. but doesn't seem to be getting through to her. "Shep" because she heels better than any dog I've ever had, and who in their right mind would name a duck, "Fido" or "Rover"- I mean, c'mon!

A little help for Ray posting his Shep pictures.

Here are the pics of Shep. She's getting a "baggie" wax worm in the 1st pic, the rest are glamor shots.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/FredrickFogg/DSC00296_zps4228605f.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/FredrickFogg/media/DSC00296_zps4228605f.jpg.html)

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/FredrickFogg/DSC00299_zpsa5b539a1.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/FredrickFogg/media/DSC00299_zpsa5b539a1.jpg.html)

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/FredrickFogg/DSC00304_zps14a68442.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/FredrickFogg/media/DSC00304_zps14a68442.jpg.html)

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/FredrickFogg/DSC00307_zps1d0f8d03.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/FredrickFogg/media/DSC00307_zps1d0f8d03.jpg.html)

skooky20
05-21-2013, 12:37 PM
Dont get me wrong i would love to climb the tree myself but that just aint happening. I am so afraid of hights and i would break the tree lol

bluswayze
05-23-2013, 01:14 PM
Wes, I imprinted a little tiercel anatum from Bill Murphy last year and a little grenade he is! Good lure flyer and game bird but he can be a little mouthy and carries on occasion "loves to tear up a good quail all over my neighbors rooftop" I'm sure they love me... I did everything I could to avoid bad manners but I suppose practice makes perfect with imprinting. Joseph

skooky20
05-25-2013, 04:27 PM
one more week, and its killing me lol.

rehabber
05-26-2013, 09:36 AM
A 5 week old female Barbary I am imprinting for a friend.
Had to tether her today after she proved she could fly.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t182/fenlands/Barbary%20falcon/IMG_20130526_134643Small_zps4410dd8c.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/fenlands/media/Barbary%20falcon/IMG_20130526_134643Small_zps4410dd8c.jpg.html)

rehabber
05-26-2013, 10:58 AM
A second year tiercel peales I am imprinting for another friend.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t182/fenlands/DSCF2267Small_zps898e9a34.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/fenlands/media/DSCF2267Small_zps898e9a34.jpg.html)
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t182/fenlands/BJ/DSCF2277Small_zpsb03c7d13.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/fenlands/media/BJ/DSCF2277Small_zpsb03c7d13.jpg.html)
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t182/fenlands/BJ/DSCF2272Small_zps9c4d2373.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/fenlands/media/BJ/DSCF2272Small_zps9c4d2373.jpg.html)

PeteJ
05-26-2013, 11:11 AM
Starting the 15th day with this one of a kind. She (supposedly) was 305 grams this morning and trying to stand up but still a bit too unsteady. http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/petej1956/Echo14thdayfaceon_zps394e5fc1.jpg (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/petej1956/media/Echo14thdayfaceon_zps394e5fc1.jpg.html)

xjturnerx
05-26-2013, 03:00 PM
What is that Pete?

And two questions for you rehabber? What does that Barbary weigh at 5 weeks? And how do you imprint a two year old adult bird

PeteJ
05-26-2013, 03:11 PM
What is that Pete?

And two questions for you rehabber? What does that Barbary weigh at 5 weeks? And how do you imprint a two year old adult bird
Its a Teita X Barbary. First one of that combo. In the past I've always made them the opposite way (Barbary tiercel into Teita female). It will be interesting to see how it differs from the other type.

xjturnerx
05-26-2013, 03:15 PM
Oh ok. Is it male or female and what will be its unlucky victims

PeteJ
05-26-2013, 05:32 PM
Oh ok. Is it male or female and what will be its unlucky victims
Egg shell says female, but, I'm skeptical. We'll see. Intendeds are the usual suspects, teal, dove, quail, but with our drought it may be homers, homers and more homers.

FredFogg
05-26-2013, 06:49 PM
She has some sweet looking feet on her Pete! Keep us updated, very interesting cross!

By the way, where do you send you egg shells for sexing? The reason I ask, I used Avian Boitech in Florida and got inconclusive results with my 2 HH eggs. I am a little hesitant to send them anything else now. The said I could send feather or blood samples of the 2 birds at no charge but the main reason I DNA them is for banding. I am definitely going to know their sex before they are gone at 16 weeks. I sent them an email Friday asking what happened because I sent the eggs the same way I always have and haven't gotten a response back yet, but it was Friday afternoon.

PeteJ
05-26-2013, 09:25 PM
She has some sweet looking feet on her Pete! Keep us updated, very interesting cross!

By the way, where do you send you egg shells for sexing? The reason I ask, I used Avian Boitech in Florida and got inconclusive results with my 2 HH eggs. I am a little hesitant to send them anything else now. The said I could send feather or blood samples of the 2 birds at no charge but the main reason I DNA them is for banding. I am definitely going to know their sex before they are gone at 16 weeks. I sent them an email Friday asking what happened because I sent the eggs the same way I always have and haven't gotten a response back yet, but it was Friday afternoon.
I use Zoogen in Davis, CA. They're fast once they get your sample and haven't been wrong for me that I can recall.

wesleyc6
05-26-2013, 11:46 PM
Cool to see baby birds showing up! Excited for each of you

xjturnerx
05-27-2013, 12:09 AM
I still wanna know how to imprint a two year old adult bird

rehabber
05-27-2013, 08:22 AM
What is that Pete?

And two questions for you rehabber? What does that Barbary weigh at 5 weeks? And how do you imprint a two year old adult bird

This Barbary weighs 750gms or 27ozs at 5 weeks with an empty crop.
Do not believe you could imprint a 2 year old p/r bird, but as I got this chick at 15 days old in 2011, I think it is possible. The imprinting process for a future hat bird is an ongoing process that carries on well into its adult life.
So that is how I am imprinting a two year old adult bird.

rehabber
05-27-2013, 08:28 AM
I still wanna know how to imprint a two year old adult bird

You should remember when its your day time, it is when most of us are asleep in the UK, hence the time before I answered.

xjturnerx
05-27-2013, 08:52 AM
The time of day thing is cool. You didn't specify what the bird was for or I would have understood. I figured it was a typo. And that is a good size Barbary for five weeks. Mine is 39 days today and is about 620 but she was supposed to have come from smaller parents. Thanks for the clarification George. No offense was intended. And I dig Barbaries

rehabber
05-27-2013, 09:50 AM
The time of day thing is cool. You didn't specify what the bird was for or I would have understood. I figured it was a typo. And that is a good size Barbary for five weeks. Mine is 39 days today and is about 620 but she was supposed to have come from smaller parents. Thanks for the clarification George. No offense was intended. And I dig Barbaries

No problem, is your barbary a female?

xjturnerx
05-27-2013, 11:34 AM
Yes

dirtwinger
05-27-2013, 02:49 PM
I just pulled a 10 day old eyas female prairie will be fun watching her grow.

PeteJ
05-27-2013, 05:18 PM
Congrats Terrence. You going to do a thread or what?

Saluqi
05-27-2013, 05:31 PM
What Terence said:


I just pulled a 10 day old eyas female prairie will be fun watching her grow.

What Terence meant: Paul Domski went over the cliff and pulled a 10 day old eyas female prairie that will be fun for me to watch grow.

FredFogg
05-27-2013, 05:59 PM
What Terence said:



What Terence meant: Paul Domski went over the cliff and pulled a 10 day old eyas female prairie that will be fun for me to watch grow.


And I saw the pics on FaceTube! LOL Paul, you are much braver that I am! But I think a thread with more pics would very much be appeciated Terence! haill

poleyc
05-27-2013, 06:47 PM
I just pulled a 10 day old eyas female prairie will be fun watching her grow.

You know the rules!!!! Pictures or it didn't happen.

dirtwinger
05-28-2013, 01:15 AM
What Terence said:



What Terence meant: Paul Domski went over the cliff and pulled a 10 day old eyas female prairie that will be fun for me to watch grow.

I bought the beer doesnt that count for something?

vlp
05-28-2013, 06:47 PM
Hello,

I am working with a Cooper's this season. Pulled her this weekend.
http://s11.postimg.org/jta9zng9f/shirley.jpg

http://s11.postimg.org/xo8ki4aoj/shirley_mom.jpg

xjturnerx
05-28-2013, 08:12 PM
What do you plan on flying with her Vincent

skooky20
05-28-2013, 09:03 PM
The gods did not shine on me this year first nest was a dud and second nest only had one in it. Maybe i will get lucky next year

wesleyc6
05-28-2013, 09:08 PM
The gods did not shine on me this year first nest was a dud and second nest only had one in it. Maybe i will get lucky next year

Aw man. Hate to hear that.

vlp
05-28-2013, 09:51 PM
What do you plan on flying with her Vincent

Starlings, Pigeons, and Doves are plentiful around here. I have a couple of places with quail but not many. A friend had a hen Cooper's that caught squirrels regularly. This girls has large feet and her mother was one of the bigger birds I have seen. She was quite aggressive at the nest also. I hunted with a male last season (her brother) and had fun with the house sparrows but wanted something bigger.

wesleyc6
05-28-2013, 10:02 PM
Starlings, Pigeons, and Doves are plentiful around here. I have a couple of places with quail but not many. A friend had a hen Cooper's that caught squirrels regularly. This girls has large feet and her mother was one of the bigger birds I have seen. She was quite aggressive at the nest also. I hunted with a male last season (her brother) and had fun with the house sparrows but wanted something bigger.


Congrats on the new bird. Hope you start a thread on here about her development and hunting!

wesleyc6
05-28-2013, 10:04 PM
Its a Teita X Barbary. First one of that combo. In the past I've always made them the opposite way (Barbary tiercel into Teita female). It will be interesting to see how it differs from the other type.

Hey Pete,
Way to go on the little bird and on posting a pic of her. Hey, I know you like the teita, but can you make a short summation on why you like to use them in your hybrids?

PeteJ
05-28-2013, 11:50 PM
Hey Pete,
Way to go on the little bird and on posting a pic of her. Hey, I know you like the teita, but can you make a short summation on why you like to use them in your hybrids?

A few reasons Wes. First of all, they are small, and probably the smallest of the true waiting-on strategy hunters (stoop to kill, not tail chase to kill like the Hobby or Bat Falcon). Much of my quarry is on the small end so their size helps.
They have some of the most interesting adaptations to that flight style in that their plumage is very tight, very very hard, tail is proportionally the shortest of any falcon I can think of, primaries are very long and reminiscent of knives, yet the secondaries are very small and the wing itself (skeletal part) is short. There is some speculation that they are in the top 5 for speed in the stoop.
Feet are heavy duty and tarsi is thick for a falcon in their size range, which is unusual and unique. They hit unexpectedly hard and accurately.
They come from a warmish climate and therefore are better suited for me than many of the others. They are very sedentary in general and do not tend to wander around much and will wait on for long periods.
As for why do I use them in hybrids? Because they help to bring some of their characteristics to the other side of what I am using with them, while the other side brings something to them that they seem to need to make them into a useful falconry bird.

wesleyc6
05-29-2013, 08:59 PM
A few reasons Wes. First of all, they are small, and probably the smallest of the true waiting-on strategy hunters (stoop to kill, not tail chase to kill like the Hobby or Bat Falcon). Much of my quarry is on the small end so their size helps.
They have some of the most interesting adaptations to that flight style in that their plumage is very tight, very very hard, tail is proportionally the shortest of any falcon I can think of, primaries are very long and reminiscent of knives, yet the secondaries are very small and the wing itself (skeletal part) is short. There is some speculation that they are in the top 5 for speed in the stoop.
Feet are heavy duty and tarsi is thick for a falcon in their size range, which is unusual and unique. They hit unexpectedly hard and accurately.
They come from a warmish climate and therefore are better suited for me than many of the others. They are very sedentary in general and do not tend to wander around much and will wait on for long periods.
As for why do I use them in hybrids? Because they help to bring some of their characteristics to the other side of what I am using with them, while the other side brings something to them that they seem to need to make them into a useful falconry bird.

Thanks Pete! Very informative!

colelkhunter
05-30-2013, 01:15 PM
What Terence said:



What Terence meant: Paul Domski went over the cliff and pulled a 10 day old eyas female prairie that will be fun for me to watch grow.



:D:D

colelkhunter
05-30-2013, 01:17 PM
I'sll be rocking an imprint sharpie, lord willing and the creek don't rise.amennn

PeteJ
05-30-2013, 02:39 PM
I'sll be rocking an imprint sharpie, lord willing and the creek don't rise.amennn
Well that did it...it just went out over the wire to west central NM quail population. They have very good ears!

PeteJ
05-30-2013, 02:45 PM
Its a Teita X Barbary. First one of that combo. In the past I've always made them the opposite way (Barbary tiercel into Teita female). It will be interesting to see how it differs from the other type.
It has pretty much grown into a female at this point. She weighed in @ 419 grams this morning, empty. I pulled out the female Barbary X Teita who is many years older and made the opposite way and has several large flight and tail feathers out (they have to weigh something right?) and she weighed exactly the same...to the gram! So for the answer to the age old question, does it make a difference on what the size of the egg it comes out of? Apparently not a bit!
I will say that they do seem to differ in some ways because of the different influences, but, I'll wait until she is fully feathered out to see if my perception of her now compared to the opposite hybrid hold up.

murraym
05-30-2013, 02:48 PM
It has pretty much grown into a female at this point. She weighed in @ 419 grams this morning, empty. I pulled out the female Barbary X Teita who is many years older and made the opposite way and has several large flight and tail feathers out (they have to weigh something right?) and she weighed exactly the same...to the gram! So for the answer to the age old question, does it make a difference on what the size of the egg it comes out of? Apparently not a bit!
I will say that they do seem to differ in some ways because of the different influences, but, I'll wait until she is fully feathered out to see if my perception of her now compared to the opposite hybrid hold up.

Pete do you have a picture of your older bird?

FredFogg
05-30-2013, 02:52 PM
It has pretty much grown into a female at this point.

Ok Pete, fess up, tell us your secret! How do you grow them into a certain sex? And here I thought once they hatched they were either a male or female right then and there! Geeez, I have a lot to learn! LOL :D

PeteJ
05-30-2013, 03:14 PM
Pete do you have a picture of your older bird?
The older bird (Barbary into Teita) looks like this now, perhaps a bit paler marked now that she is much older than this photo. Then beneath that is the immature pic of the same cross.
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/petej1956/barbteitafalcon-1.jpg (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/petej1956/media/barbteitafalcon-1.jpg.html)
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/petej1956/finalproductfront-1.jpg (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/petej1956/media/finalproductfront-1.jpg.html)

PeteJ
05-30-2013, 03:16 PM
Ok Pete, fess up, tell us your secret! How do you grow them into a certain sex? And here I thought once they hatched they were either a male or female right then and there! Geeez, I have a lot to learn! LOL :D
It didn't seem to be following the sort of growth curve that the females that I made the other way did. So while the egg shell analysis said female (they have been wrong before) I was feeling like it just wasn't growing at the right pace to make it into the female weight range. It was just doing it slower I guess.

murraym
05-30-2013, 04:17 PM
The older bird (Barbary into Teita) looks like this now, perhaps a bit paler marked now that she is much older than this photo. Then beneath that is the immature pic of the same cross.
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/petej1956/barbteitafalcon-1.jpg (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/petej1956/media/barbteitafalcon-1.jpg.html)
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/petej1956/finalproductfront-1.jpg (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/petej1956/media/finalproductfront-1.jpg.html)

Awesome! I want one.

colelkhunter
05-30-2013, 04:38 PM
The older bird (Barbary into Teita) looks like this now, perhaps a bit paler marked now that she is much older than this photo. Then beneath that is the immature pic of the same cross.
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/petej1956/barbteitafalcon-1.jpg (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/petej1956/media/barbteitafalcon-1.jpg.html)
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff174/petej1956/finalproductfront-1.jpg (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/petej1956/media/finalproductfront-1.jpg.html)


Wow.....that is one gorgeous falcon.

colelkhunter
05-30-2013, 04:40 PM
Well that did it...it just went out over the wire to west central NM quail population. They have very good ears!



SHHHHHHHH! What are you crazy? They'll hear you. I don't think they are on NAFEX. Facebook for sure but not NAFEX, yet.crazyy

wesleyc6
05-30-2013, 05:14 PM
Wow that bird is gorgeous!

PeteJ
05-30-2013, 05:41 PM
Thanks. We'll see if the newest model turns out to be similar. It should but I'm thinking not quite as colorful as I expect to see more Barbary look to this newest one.

bobpayne
05-31-2013, 04:22 PM
Well I enjoy a new hawk much more than I dislike the work that goes hand in hand with it's responsibilities. I purchased her from gyrs.com
22 day Aplomado falcon

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx336/nterBobPayne/photobucket-44063-1369967092372.jpg (http://s769.photobucket.com/user/nterBobPayne/media/photobucket-44063-1369967092372.jpg.html)

ikcus
05-31-2013, 09:15 PM
This year is a Gyrfalcon since my Gos did not produce. 23 days old, and just off the plane.

http://www.ikcus.com/pegs/fran1.jpg

Shortwingn
06-01-2013, 08:39 AM
I have two imprints comint this year. A Saker and a EEO. Possibly a third but time is getting short?

Rmoglich
06-18-2013, 12:48 AM
Here is one of my summer projects, a male Siberian (albidus) goshawk named Ja̎ger :-). He was bred by my father (Mark Moglich) this year.

Here he is not long from when he hatched.
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/Ryan_Moglich/b57e2cb3-cf80-4697-b52b-aa24a43fac3a_zpsa22b984e.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/Ryan_Moglich/media/b57e2cb3-cf80-4697-b52b-aa24a43fac3a_zpsa22b984e.jpg.html)

Getting some quality nap time.
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/Ryan_Moglich/fb62bb84-a075-4c7d-a907-293c418f49f8_zpse519f72e.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/Ryan_Moglich/media/fb62bb84-a075-4c7d-a907-293c418f49f8_zpse519f72e.jpg.html)

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/Ryan_Moglich/IMG_4266_zps86b43de7.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/Ryan_Moglich/media/IMG_4266_zps86b43de7.jpg.html)

Ja̎ger earlier today
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/Ryan_Moglich/IMG_1077_zps85ef905c.jpg (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/Ryan_Moglich/media/IMG_1077_zps85ef905c.jpg.html)

Chris L.
06-18-2013, 12:59 AM
Ryan that is just awesome man! I sure hope you let us know how he does this year

colelkhunter
06-18-2013, 11:59 AM
The weekends results.

Rmoglich
06-18-2013, 03:53 PM
Ryan that is just awesome man! I sure hope you let us know how he does this year

Thanks Chris, I'll make sure to post some updates throughout the season.