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Tyme2fly
05-23-2013, 10:03 PM
http://http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/tyme2fly/image_zps7916eaef.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/tyme2fly/media/image_zps7916eaef.jpg.html)boy do they have some expressionshttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/tyme2fly/image_zps7916eaef.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/tyme2fly/media/image_zps7916eaef.jpg.html)

Tyme2fly
05-23-2013, 10:09 PM
My wife's bird is on the left mine is on the right

Tom Scheib
05-24-2013, 07:57 AM
They look like twins.

sharptail
05-24-2013, 08:29 AM
Nice Reds!

I don't mean to be rude...but that T perch has got to go.

paganlove22
05-24-2013, 05:15 PM
That right there would make me real nervous. Not worried about breaking out? let me open a can of worms...........ever think about flying them in a cast? brickk

cindy
05-24-2013, 05:27 PM
Too cute, great photo!

broken feather
05-24-2013, 09:14 PM
That right there would make me real nervous. Not worried about breaking out? let me open a can of worms...........ever think about flying them in a cast? brickk
Jen, rt in a cast? I did in the 70's and by the look of things I would.

robhawkyyz
05-24-2013, 09:26 PM
I don't want to search, male and female or tweeners? by the feet left looks male right is female... their beaks both look female and maybe lighting with the eyes and brow ridge left is female right is male, and they look like twins too, their marking seems very close.. cool pic.

Todd Brown
05-24-2013, 11:53 PM
This topic has been debated before.....but flying in a cast is asking for trouble.

As a kid, I knew a guy who's RTH killed three other RTH's in one season.

It's my opinion to think twice here.

FredFogg
05-25-2013, 12:19 AM
I don't want to search, male and female or tweeners? by the feet left looks male right is female... their beaks both look female and maybe lighting with the eyes and brow ridge left is female right is male, and they look like twins too, their marking seems very close.. cool pic.

Both are males!

Tyme2fly
05-25-2013, 10:31 AM
Yeah we thought about flyin in a cast but to much to risk. I would feel terrible if they went to getting after each other. They are both males. And are very much tolerant of each other. Their markings are almost almost the same but size wise mine is a little smaller by 75-100 grams.

Girl with a red tail
05-25-2013, 10:44 AM
Just to let you know sharp tail we were sitting right there when we took the picture and the t perch is not something we normally use but it was the biggest one we had to put both birds on for the picture.,,,since then we don't ever put the birds on the same perch just don't want to take the chance....

broken feather
05-25-2013, 05:09 PM
This topic has been debated before.....but flying in a cast is asking for trouble.

As a kid, I knew a guy who's RTH killed three other RTH's in one season.

It's my opinion to think twice here. Todd, true I had a female rt that would kill anything!!I also have had Female harris that would try to kill other harris? Looking at both birds being males that are weather close to each other all the time. and by the look of things there sitting on a T perch together with out crabing.arguee

Todd Brown
05-25-2013, 07:11 PM
Russell,

All it would take would is a one time talon through the skull and all that hard work training that bird would be wasted.....however, this is a different topic and I don't want to steal this thread....So PM me our we can start a different thread.

FredFogg
05-25-2013, 07:20 PM
There is a risk flying any 2 birds together, no matter what species. Personally, I know several folks that fly red-tails in cast. If you want to do it, go for it. Just like flying any birds in a cast, you just have to be cautious and aware of what is going on at all times. Sometime in the future, I plan on flying 2 red-tails together, just have too many other birds I want to fly right now to take on that project. LOL

Tyme2fly
05-26-2013, 01:12 PM
I know flying in a cast would be Pretty neat but we (wife/I) don't want to risk getting one of our birds injured/killed by forcing the to fly together. my2.

Toadstool
05-30-2013, 05:23 PM
Wow they are strikingly similar in appearance, pretty dark too! That look is hilarious.

oldguy
05-30-2013, 08:08 PM
http://http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/tyme2fly/image_zps7916eaef.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/tyme2fly/media/image_zps7916eaef.jpg.html)boy do they have some expressionshttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/tyme2fly/image_zps7916eaef.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/tyme2fly/media/image_zps7916eaef.jpg.html)

I refuse to step in the "flying in a cast" debate. Not experienced enough.

This picture says to me "Dude...Tic Tac" !

Icantmove
05-30-2013, 10:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3S5LO4z.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/o4BP3dv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xAfzu2d.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GxzKy7i.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zGZHny2.jpg

Toadstool
05-31-2013, 10:07 AM
-Chesley: LMAO! firsts

RjohnD
05-31-2013, 11:57 AM
O lord those are awesome MEMEs

paganlove22
05-31-2013, 08:25 PM
This topic has been debated before.....but flying in a cast is asking for trouble.

As a kid, I knew a guy who's RTH killed three other RTH's in one season.

It's my opinion to think twice here.


I know it has been debated to death every so often over the years on here.....thats why I said it. lol box2

ti-jean
11-13-2013, 11:48 PM
I am late to se that pics but make me laugh thumbsupp that a good one

dirtwinger
11-14-2013, 04:01 AM
Thing about cast flying redtails if you havent done it you dont know what your talking about. In my experience they were easier than harris hawks to work with. Now granted the birds need to get along and not all redtails do but if you have the right birds it works like a charm. my cast would cuddle up together on the back of a chair in the living room and fluff up and sleep. They would be so close their feathers merged together, wish I had taken pics.
Bottomline is redtails do work as a cast not all will do it but when you get some that do it is a blast. My birds flew at 26oz and 35oz respectively and were never aggressive to one another. Sorry if this will derail the thread, those memes had me laughing my ass off.:D

all the best

460shooter
11-14-2013, 08:21 AM
Shirley temple..... Hockey stick!!!!!

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Todd Brown
11-14-2013, 05:58 PM
Terrence...it was my opinion to think twice not necessarily to not do it....and I have flown RT's in a cast years ago,didn't even question it(I was a kid) but after seeing my buddies hawk kill 3 birds in one season, I won't do it again...it's just not worth the risk to me.

RT's are not sociable animals like HH's. It's not in their nature unless they are a mated pair. It's one thing to ask a Lion to hunt in a pride...it's another to ask a Tiger.

Tyme2fly
11-14-2013, 06:57 PM
Yeah we don't fly em in a cast. Way to much to risk for me. They are nest mates. But where caught 25-30 miles apart and a month apart. But will sit on the perch side x side.

christopher.vly
11-14-2013, 11:09 PM
Falcons are not social either, yet there are people who have done it... SUCCESSFULLY
.

JRedig
11-14-2013, 11:28 PM
Have them at weight and go hawking, you'd be surprised. It's been done a lot, only in the last 15 years have people gotten all wimpy about flying birds together.

Todd Brown
11-14-2013, 11:39 PM
People have flown RT's in a cast successfully too, me included....that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

I'm afraid we're running the risk of highjacking this thread...and I don't mean that I should have the last word but this will be my last word on flying RT's in a cast, unless it's on another thread.

460shooter
11-14-2013, 11:44 PM
I've flown several RT's in casts. Me and a few buddies did it all the time with up to 4 RT's at the same time! 2 were eyas birds and 2 were passage. 3 females and 1 male. Never had a problem. We were treated to some incredible flights, some of which I will never forget.

That being said, I do think it is up to the individual birds, and ultimately up to the individual falconer to make the choice. Not flying in a cast is NOT wrong. Even though I enjoyed flying in a cast, I do think life and death should be "Mano-a-Mano" to make it fair for all involved.

Todd, I agree-- this will be my last post as well concerning casts on this thread. Don't mean to derail the thread, it has been great seeing the comments on the two expressions of the RT's. Great photo too!

Todd Brown
11-15-2013, 10:09 PM
Oh...and by the way...a couple of nice looking hawks

falcon56
11-16-2013, 08:59 AM
Yeah we don't fly em in a cast. Way to much to risk for me. They are nest mates. But where caught 25-30 miles apart and a month apart. But will sit on the perch side x side.

Okay, how do you know they are nest mates? Bit of a stretch.

Tyme2fly
11-16-2013, 10:59 AM
Ray,
It is a bit of a stretch but we did DNA test on them. And confirmed it all.

jfincher
11-16-2013, 11:42 AM
Ray,
It is a bit of a stretch but we did DNA test on them. And confirmed it all.


DAAAAAAAMN! is that true or just a really good comeback?

falcon56
11-16-2013, 01:23 PM
Ray,
It is a bit of a stretch but we did DNA test on them. And confirmed it all.


That certainly would confirm it, but now I'm curious why you would do DNA tests on a couple birds that on the face of it, would have had no connection. Was it just a lark, or suspicion of some kind?

Tyme2fly
11-16-2013, 02:24 PM
Nope 100% truth. No comeback LOL.

Tyme2fly
11-16-2013, 02:27 PM
Just a hunch but but almost feather per feather they where pretty close so we thought what the heck and sent it off. The guy at the DNA place said that's the first time he's ever seen/heard it either.

Tom Scheib
01-05-2014, 04:38 PM
I've been fortunate to see both of these birds hunt rabbits and squirrels, not as a cast, but individually. They are good birds. This morning Hollie's bird flew from her fist to a tree as we started into the woods to beat brush. We banged on trees, and pulled vines. He wouldn't move and wouldn't follow. He was fixed on one tree. We didn't see anything and urged him to follow but he remained steadfast. After 10 or 15 minutes he hit the other tree and I saw a squirrel run down it. I told Hollie and KT. They said he'd he'd grabbed one and was still holding on in the moss about 3/4 of the way up. He got that one. Another bushytail in the bag.

jeff17
02-03-2014, 12:04 PM
"they said what ?"," we're brothers?" " NO SH-T!" "All they had to do was ask" Thanks for sharing a GREAT pic. awsome RT's Jefffirsts

Girl with a red tail
02-03-2014, 02:51 PM
It is true we did a DNA test and they are nest mates and both males, really cool huh

Squirrelhawkin
02-03-2014, 03:04 PM
"....and then he said,I think I'm going to get rid of both of them and get a goshawk!!!!"