Wanted Tundra peregrine picture

[murraym]

Anyone have a picture of a Tundra Peregrine. I don't know that I have ever seen one, or if I would even know if I saw one I would know it was one.

[sharptail]

Look in North American Falconry and Hunting Hawks, page 112.

[outhawkn]

Just a pale version of an anatum

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/385920059_0aa14d9469.jpg?v=0

[sharptail]

Just a pale version of an anatum

Except they migrate a lot farther and sometime nest on the ground in the arctic.

[outhawkn]

Except they migrate a lot farther and sometime nest on the ground in the arctic.

I was just referring to the color.

[murraym]

Thanks fellas, nice looking bird. Forgive my ignorance but this is the smallest subspecies and supposed to have the best attitude?

[outhawkn]

Thanks fellas, nice looking bird. Forgive my ignorance but this is the smallest subspecies and supposed to have the best attitude?

Its also the best bird to break your heart by flying away unexpectedly..or so i hear.......................Bruce Haak used to breed them I dont know if he still does or not.

PS I stole that photo off the net, my appologies................................

[sharptail]

Falco Peregrinus Minor...the African Peregrine is the smallest.

[murraym]

Ohh jeez Bill, I can forgie your thievery in this case ;)

[Tom Smith]

Matt,
You may like to check out the falcon research group they have some pictures. Link at bottom.They are doing some very interesting tracking studies. Two of the birds tagged very far south in Chile just arrived, a few days ago, on their nesting ground in the arctic they migrated some 8900 miles in like 40 days.
Actually appearance wise some don't vary much from anatum peregrines or cassini peregrines. They, in adult plumage, give the impression of being blue black back and white spotted front, seldom any red or pink. Typical immatures look like the picture of the bird posted above. BUT, Their appearance isn't what sets them apart from other peregrines, they are smallish, The spanish,the black shaheen, and the african are similar in size. What does set them apart is their longer primary feathers and shorter tail. They are highly migratory and molt during the winter on their wintering grounds. By reputation, they are very tame, however that may be the result of being trapped on the southward migration when they're young, tired and hungry. Prairie falcons that are young, tired, and hungry can be just as tame.
Reintroduced tundra peregrines become normal for the latitude they are introduced to, (molt in the summer) which make some question the validity of sub-species status. DNA studies doesn't separate them from anatums.

Bruce Haak no longer breeds them.

Interesting link with pictures http://www.frg.org/ mostly adults, Check out the southern cross project.

Regards, Tom

[outhawkn]

Matt

In case your interested here is a 7/8 tundra for sale

http://www.raptorsnest.com/

[idbirdman]

Hey Matt,
I actualy have a real nice tiercel as part of my project. When I get a chance I will take some pictures and post them. JUST NOT TONIGHT! Sorry.
Tom is deffinatly one that knows what he is talking about. Lots and lots and lots of years of experience, not only as a falconer but also a professional trapper (bander). Pretty amazing guy.
Stephen

[Tom Smith]

Gee thanks, Stephen,
Unfortunately that's not quite accurate a lot (most) of my experience, unfortunately, has been simple reading. I have some nice pictures to, but I don't care to mess with that photo bucket thing or whatever it is called. I think the tundras we have out of Bruce's stuff are more taiga than tundra. The malar stripe formula, which I won't get into, would suggest they originated farther south like on the Yukon River. They are the right size for tundra but just a little bit wrong in pattern at least in my bird and Jinx, Bruce's bird. It is all rather meaningless though as there is a continual mixing of genes going on in the wild. One can find absolutely perfect examples of the various sub-species in almost any peregrine population except Fiji and far out in the Aleutians. There is a good picture of a typical pallid type cassini peregrine from Argentina, that nests on the ground near Rankin Inlet, Hudson's bay, North America posted some where on the internet, I think in the international Forum.

Tom

http://frgroup.frg.org/

[murraym]

Thanks Bill not too expensive really. I asked around and heard they tend to migrate more than others, probably why they get lost or fly off easy. I have spent alot of time trying to fill this peregrine permit in AZ and am not having muck luck so far. I got two weeks to get it done or fly something else. Just trying to figure out what I want to fly and what the boss says I can spend.

Interesting website Tom thanks.

[outhawkn]

Thanks Bill not too expensive really. I asked around and heard they tend to migrate more than others, probably why they get lost or fly off easy. I have spent alot of time trying to fill this peregrine permit in AZ and am not having muck luck so far. I got two weeks to get it done or fly something else. Just trying to figure out what I want to fly and what the boss says I can spend.

Interesting website Tom thanks.

Matt
For what its worth, you cant go wrong with an anatum. IMO They are the perfect falcon all things considered.

[Ron Clarke]

Hi Murray,

Realize this thread has been around a while, but here's a shot of my old tiercel tundra peregrine. He was eleven when this shot was taken. I'll see if I can scare up some other images if you're still interested.

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/RonClarke/TundraPeregrine.jpg

Ron

[Ron Clarke]

Sorry, Matt. Had you pegged as Murray M. instead of M. Murray. Oops.

Ron

[murraym]

Thanks Ron, I always enjoy looking at pictures of birds. I filled my wild take permit with a Tiercel Anatum this year. He is a nice little bird but it's too hot to start cutting weight here yet so I don't know how he will fly.

[Lowachi]

if I can scare up some other images if you're still interested.

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/RonClarke/TundraPeregrine.jpg

Ron
This is scary:eek: enough thank you;), ya Dead Head:D

[Ron Clarke]

This is scary:eek: enough thank you;), ya Dead Head:D

OK, OK! Here's one entirely uncontaminated by ancient rock music fans.

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/RonClarke/PeregrineWithBufflehead.jpg

[rcklmbr2586]

MMMMMMMmmmmMMMMmmm Jerry makes my heart happy!

[Lowachi]

"I will get by......"

[Roper]

ya Uh I was thinkin that same thing... Is that a dead head patch on his shirt??

[Lowachi]

ya Uh I was thinkin that same thing... Is that a dead head patch on his shirt??
Yoou betcha!! I big slice of raisin pie for you!clapp Gerry's not dead, he just cut his hair and moved to AK!:D

[felipe]

hi,

if is possible that someone to write more about training and interesting things about tundrius and anatum

also i saw and listened that is difficult to say wich is tundra and wich is anatum. is true that ?

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad197/felipeable/falconry/tundriustito.jpg

felipe

[Yeomanfalconer]

The interested should look at Eric Edward's video of Doc, his tiercel tundra, just caught this fall, flying snipe in Florida.