book question?

[alltails]

hello all another new guy. just wanted to say hello. I'm pre apprentice for at least the rest of this year, decided i better do major reading up first. I am curious, although it was highly recommended and good reading any ideas as to the reason for a $200 price for the book by Beebe and Webster titled " North American Falconry and Hunting Hawks".

[outhawkn]

(welc)
North American Falconry and Hunting Hawks is considered the " Bible" of falconry. It covers every aspect of falconry, longwings,shortwings,broadwings, equipment,etc. If you can afford only one book, its the book to have,IMO

That opinion btw, has nothing to do with the fact that I'm selling a copy on ebay.

http://www.nafex.net/showthread.php?t=2669

[everetkhorton]

It is out of print and is getting harder to find. The editors were founding fathers of NAFA. They can also get it. It was also one of the first books written and published in the U.S.

[frootdog]

Not only is it out of print, but due to the number of people seeking info on falconry it is in very high demand. A new edition will come out one day and all will be right with the world. If you don't want to lay out the cash right now, then get The Red Tailed Hawk by McGanaghan (sp), American Kestrels in Modern Falconry by Mullinex, The Falconer's Apprentice by Oakes, and a study guide or 2 those along with your stateand federal regs (the true bible or falconry in my opinion) should get you through just fine.

[Flatwater Falconer]

If I recall Hal Webster told me he's doing another edition of NAFAHH. Anyone else heard this?

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[Flatwater Falconer]

The Falconer's Apprentice by Oakes is one of my favorites. An easy enjoyable read and full of valuable sensible information.

www.eaglewingpublishing.com (http://www.eaglewingpublishing.com) to get it direct from Bill Oakes.

Tell him we sent you.

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[Flatwater Falconer]

Oh by the way - (welc)

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[Bodarc]

If I recall Hal Webster told me he's doing another edition of NAFAHH. Anyone else heard this?



Donna

I recently read where it is supposedly due out this summer.

http://www.mikesfalconry.com/product.asp?specific=158

[outhawkn]

If I recall Hal Webster told me he's doing another edition of NAFAHH. Anyone else heard this?

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Its been " going to be out soon" for a couple years now......confusedd

[threetoe]

All those books listed are outstanding.

I might add another here.

Tony Halls - Falconry Basics.
It's the ONLY one I've read that has ANYTHING on the anatomy of raptors with pictures to illustrate the bone structure, organ placement and such. It's a different book than the others.

As for my studying before the test...

I read Beebe and Webster's "Bible" - three times -along with The Falconers Apprentice, American Kestrels in Modern Falconry, The CHC Apprentice Study Guide and The entire Modern Apprentice web site.
I took a notebook and manually wrote out all the diseases scientific names, the common names, their symptoms, what they affect, the treatments, medications and finally the prognosis for all the major diseases and maladays that raptors face.

(I'm sure glad I did because I created an awesome reference and I NEEDED IT!! _ Without it I might have lost my bird last season)

Besides, I got 100% on the test so I guess I did something right.

:eek:

You can do it, just study like you've got a Linebacker chasing you.

[alltails]

I'm curious no one mentioned Buteos & Bushytails by Brewer. It is on my list of recommends anyone read it yet.

[alltails]

You can do it, just study like you've got a Linebacker chasing you.[/quote]

thanks for the info i am definitely reading massive amounts hoping to pass on the first go around... I am having a problem finding a vet for raptors in the area anyone know of one near Delaware. just want all my ducks in a row so I have nothing but my hawk to worry about when i get it.confusedd

[threetoe]

If you are SERIOUS, you'll do fine.

[FredFogg]

I'm curious no one mentioned Buteos & Bushytails by Brewer. It is on my list of recommends anyone read it yet.

It is a good read, but not nearly as valuable for learning with your first new red-tail as The Red Tailed Hawk by McGanaghan and The Falconer's Apprentice by Oakes. Brewer pretty much gives you his way and as you will learn, there are many ways of doing things. I would have to say Oakes books is the easiest, most basic read on training a red-tail. I think I carried it in my back pocket my entire first year! LOL

Oh yeah, here is a link to a website by one of his apprentices and you will find several good articles written by Gary Brewer.

http://squirrelhawking.homestead.com/articleindex.html

[frootdog]

Its been " going to be out soon" for a couple years now......confusedd


Don't hold your breath. He was still comissioning authors at the last NAFA meet.

[goshawks00]

One of my favorites is ''Understanding Birds of Prey" by Nick Fox.
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Barry

[anasari]

(welc)
One of my favorites is ''Understanding Birds of Prey" by Nick Fox.
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Barry
Mine too, sorry I did'nt(welc) you sooner Got sidetracked readin about Lure flying Red tails!

[carlosR]

What really impressed me with NAFAHH was it's textbook explanations of the gear and methods needed to raise and train hawks. It is a good read.

[outhawkn]

One of my favorites is ''Understanding Birds of Prey" by Nick Fox.
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Barry

I'm selling that one on ebay...hint,hint...:D

http://www.nafex.net/showthread.php?t=2700

[alltails]

ok did some research and as it turns out beebe and webster both wrote 300 plus page books that are almost identical to "North american falcons and hunting hawks".......beebe's book is the compleat falconer. anyone read it.? I called mikes falconry supply and he is the one that pointed me to it..... was very helpful actually.

[Ken S.]

... I am having a problem finding a vet for raptors in the area anyone know of one near Delaware. just want all my ducks in a row so I have nothing but my hawk to worry about when i get it.confusedd

I don't know any avian Vet's in Delaware to recommend but I can give you a few ideas for some nearby in Maryland. In Fallston, MD there is an avian specialist there, Dr. Zantop. If you have an off-hours emergency, you could call "Animal Emergency Hospital" in Bel Air, MD http://www.marylandpetemergency.com/. 410-420-PAWS That's my wife's clinic. :)

I like Brewer's "Buteos and Bushtails", and I like Liam's book "The Red Tailed Hawk".. .both are good. Bill Oak's "Apprentice Manual" is a quick read but can answer some early questions quickly. As a reference book, NAFHH is still my first choice but I didn't know it was getting so expensive or I'd have a tougher time recommending it, I think my copy was 60 bucks or so when I bought it. Maybe try contacting the Falconry Archives and see if they have a used copy to sell?

[Flatwater Falconer]

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thanks for the info i am definitely reading massive amounts hoping to pass on the first go around... I am having a problem finding a vet for raptors in the area anyone know of one near Delaware. just want all my ducks in a row so I have nothing but my hawk to worry about when i get it.confusedd[/quote]

Here ya go: www.aav.org (http://www.aav.org)

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[redtailflyer]

i love that book!!!!! I borrowed it from a local falconer and read through the whole thing...if i had the money right now i would buy it too