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TiercelR
03-19-2009, 09:12 AM
- Hello, please someone can give me information about where can i read this well knowed old article ??

- Sorry for about that actually i dont remember both the right name of their author nor the right name of this article nor date of their publishing nor in what magazine did printed it.

- If someone have it, and also can load it here complete in images ( for the good fortune of all the forum members ) , or can give me access to a complete copy of it, so ill be very pleased with who give me this chance.

- Thank you in advance.

FredFogg
03-19-2009, 10:36 AM
- Hello, please someone can give me information about where can i read this well knowed old article ??

- Sorry for about that actually i dont remember both the right name of their author nor the right name of this article nor date of their publishing nor in what magazine did printed it.

- If someone have it, and also can load it here complete in images ( for the good fortune of all the forum members ) , or can give me access to a complete copy of it, so ill be very pleased with who give me this chance.

- Thank you in advance.

Drop me your email address and I will send it to you.

kimmerar
03-19-2009, 12:13 PM
Can you please send me a copy too Fred

akfalconry@gmail.com

Thanks in advance

mnoll406
03-19-2009, 01:32 PM
Fred I would also like a copy. Thanks in advance,

Mike

mnoll406@yahoo.com

outhawkn
03-19-2009, 01:36 PM
MeToo?????

outhawkn@netzero.net

Pedro Af
03-19-2009, 01:43 PM
If its not much of trouble, please send it to: pedrofalco@hotmail.com

My sincere thanks
Pedro (from Portugal)

frootdog
03-19-2009, 01:46 PM
and now Fred will be selling this list of email adresses to spammers for a hefty sum.

FredFogg
03-19-2009, 02:46 PM
and now Fred will be selling this list of email adresses to spammers for a hefty sum.

No, I would never do that, but I sure would like for any leads anyone can give me on some names I can contact for obtaining Peregrine or Prairie semen to AI my EK. toungeout:D

Lee Slikkers
03-19-2009, 02:57 PM
fred, if it's not too late I'd also appreciate a copy.

lees@s2yachts.com

thanks!!!

TiercelR
03-19-2009, 03:51 PM
- Thank you a lot Fred !! thumbsupprockonhaill PM send with e-mail .

Eragon
03-19-2009, 04:19 PM
Sorry bout this, but me too?
eragon_25_92@yahoo.com
Thanks!

FredFogg
03-19-2009, 07:23 PM
Sent to everyone above this post! Anyone else, just post below this and I will send it to you. It is an artilce that was sent to me by Tasha, GregMik's better half on here. All the pages are in jpeg format, so you have to down load them and then enlarge them to be full page, at least, that is what I did. Some of the pages aren't in great focus. So if someone wants to clean it up, I will be glad to send it to them and they can email it back to me. LOL Ben, I hear you all on MAC's can do that kind of stuff! Can you?

Pedro Af
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
I've got it:) Thaks Fred!

If you ever come to Portugal let me know!

Regards
Pedro

kimmerar
03-19-2009, 07:54 PM
Hey Fred

It's not in my inbox - can you check the email address you used.

Sorry for the hassle.

FredFogg
03-19-2009, 09:13 PM
Hey Fred

It's not in my inbox - can you check the email address you used.

Sorry for the hassle.

No problem Kim, you were in the first email, but I sent it again! Not sure why you haven't gotten it. Let me know if it didn't work. I have a new email address and sent it from there, so if you have it so only emails in your contacts don't go to the spam, then I probably ended up in your spam folder.

Eragon
03-19-2009, 09:26 PM
Thanks for sending that to me!

kimmerar
03-19-2009, 09:28 PM
It was in my spam folder. Thanks Fred!!

TiercelR
03-19-2009, 09:40 PM
- Fred : THANK YOU very much for this article, good luck !!

Silver Sage
03-19-2009, 09:51 PM
I'd be interested in reading it

silversagekennels@yahoo.com

FredFogg
03-19-2009, 10:05 PM
I'd be interested in reading it

silversagekennels@yahoo.com

Sent!

TiercelR
03-19-2009, 10:27 PM
- Appart of this article, there are more articles or books fucosed in the IMPRINTING OF FALCONS for purposes of hunting ?? and which are they by name and author ?? (( i dont talk about these fucosed for CB purposes )) . There are for Accipiters, but i dont know how much this information could be of application talking about falcons .

murraym
03-20-2009, 09:14 PM
Fred, thanks for sending me the article. I just read it and it gave me some motivation. Have any forum members used this method on a Peregrine falcon and will it work equally as well with a Peregrine? Bill I know you have hacked Peregrines is this a method you would use or if not what do you do. I'm particularly interested because I am thinking of taking a female Peregrine this year at about 27 days old.

Tanner
04-01-2009, 09:27 PM
You tired of sending it yet?

tannerschaub@hotmail.com

many thanks

FredFogg
04-04-2009, 02:22 AM
You tired of sending it yet?

tannerschaub@hotmail.com

many thanks

Sent!

BobW
04-12-2009, 08:11 AM
Fred: If you wouls please. Thank you. Bob W

BobW
04-12-2009, 08:14 AM
Fred: If you would please. Thank you. Bob W

I guess you need this:bobwee@comcast.net Thanks again. Bob W

FredFogg
04-12-2009, 08:18 AM
I guess you need this:bobwee@comcast.net Thanks again. Bob W

Sent!

silverleapers
04-14-2009, 12:29 PM
Hi Fred....me too please...
newfoundlander_1@hotmail.com

BTW every get that wireless cam working?

Thanks.

rocgwp
04-16-2009, 10:35 AM
Fred,

If you don't mind sending that article, I'd love to read it.

jsuggs@pinecove.com

wesleyc6
04-16-2009, 10:39 AM
me too!

wesleyc6@yahoo.com

crbhawking
04-16-2009, 09:21 PM
Oh and one more.

birdwell.cody@gmail.com

FredFogg
04-17-2009, 08:07 AM
I am having computer problems at home and don't have time to fix it for awhile, so I will get out to you all as soon as I can. Sorry! Typing this on my iPhone and it is a pain in the ass. I don't know how all of you do all that text messaging!

kimmerar
04-17-2009, 08:14 AM
I forwarded it on for ya Fred. To Wes and crbhawking.

I'm no texter either. I can type really well but not on a phone.

All the best

sandman
04-17-2009, 05:26 PM
If you don't mind too much....ME TOO PLEASE!!!
sandman2629@yahoo.com

Chris L.
04-17-2009, 05:31 PM
Cough:

me too, admin@nafex.net

thanks Fred!!

kimmerar
04-18-2009, 01:23 PM
Jason and Chris - it should be in your inbox.

Fred - I'm just helping you out while your computer's out of commission.

sandman
04-20-2009, 01:33 AM
THANKS KIM!!!:D

Lee Slikkers
04-20-2009, 08:38 AM
well, I candled to one set of 4 HH's eggs over the weekend...seems I might be lucky enough to have 3 fertile eggs so far. Keeping my fingers crossed (and wondering if I shouldn't have already moved them to the incubator vs. leaving them with the pair...

FredFogg
04-20-2009, 09:05 AM
Jason and Chris - it should be in your inbox.

Fred - I'm just helping you out while your computer's out of commission.

Thanks Kim! I put the OS on the new hard drive but I have a bunch of software to load and I haven't figured out the settings to connect to the Internet. Damn thing is supposed to be automatic. I can't download some stuff I need. Grrrrrrrr

FredFogg
04-21-2009, 10:03 PM
Ok, is everyone caught up, did Kim get it sent out to everyone that asked and I wasn't able, just let me know, my computer is working again.

kimmerar
04-21-2009, 10:08 PM
Yes Fred - I sent it out to everyone that posted in the last week. Glad you're back on.

All the best

FredFogg
04-21-2009, 10:10 PM
Yes Fred - I sent it out to everyone that posted in the last week. Glad you're back on.

All the best

Thanks Kim!

Larry
04-22-2009, 12:28 PM
Please
me to dodgerblue64@mchsi.com

Thanks
Larry

keithtsoar
04-22-2009, 07:28 PM
Fred, If you arent tired of sending it out I would like to take a look at it also. keithtsoar@aol.com

FredFogg
04-22-2009, 08:20 PM
Sent to Keith and Larry! Not a problem, anyone else, just let me know!

keithtsoar
04-22-2009, 08:25 PM
Just got it. Thank You.

Larry
04-23-2009, 10:13 AM
Got it, Thanks.

coopershawk
05-30-2010, 08:12 AM
I would like a copy of that too, please.
buteo29@yahoo.com
thanks,
mike

Lowachi
05-30-2010, 09:17 AM
ok, add me in.... richnkimborquist@maxiis.com

Joby
05-30-2010, 09:36 AM
Me three...Please! :)

jdorrian@wideopenwest.com

PeteJ
05-30-2010, 12:44 PM
Boy, am I glad I sent that article to Tasha! Whew!!!

PeteJ
05-30-2010, 12:47 PM
- Appart of this article, there are more articles or books fucosed in the IMPRINTING OF FALCONS for purposes of hunting ?? and which are they by name and author ?? (( i dont talk about these fucosed for CB purposes )) . There are for Accipiters, but i dont know how much this information could be of application talking about falcons .
Another useful book for this, primarily on imprinted Prairie Falcons, would be "The Hunting Falcon" by Bruce Haak. Much of his imprinting method came from the methods described by Charley Schwartz in that merlin article.

GONEHAWKN
05-30-2010, 02:21 PM
sorry about this, but i have got to jump on the bandwagon here. Fred?

GONEHAWKN@YAHOO.COM

Dirthawking
05-30-2010, 04:28 PM
I will just get it from Rich!!!! toungeout

Ross.Spafford
05-30-2010, 04:50 PM
me to please if it's not to much trouble. Ross.spafford@gmail.com

TiercelR
05-30-2010, 05:52 PM
Another useful book for this, primarily on imprinted Prairie Falcons, would be "The Hunting Falcon" by Bruce Haak. Much of his imprinting method came from the methods described by Charley Schwartz in that merlin article.
Pete, thanks, the Haaks book is a very interesting lecture too about the imprinting of falcons and of its hunt.

toro2010
05-31-2010, 01:29 AM
me too please if it's not to much to ask binkhoman@hotmail.com

Paul Mascuch
06-01-2010, 10:07 AM
Please also send me a copy.

Thanx,

Paul

PLBS1234@gmail.com

gunboy
06-01-2010, 10:27 AM
Please! Please! Please!

Thanks

curtparkins@verizon.net

PeteJ
06-01-2010, 11:17 AM
Poor Fred. Probably this is something that NAFA should look into...posting certain very useful articles, from the past, online so that people can access them. I don't think it takes much to convert them to .pdf files.

REYNALDO
06-01-2010, 11:32 AM
uuummm can i have a copy too:D rey@detroitchrome.com

thanks!

FredFogg
06-01-2010, 12:01 PM
Sent!

Mike O
06-01-2010, 01:09 PM
If you send me a copy of the article, I will put in online and post a link to it in this thread so anyone that wants can get it.

maokeefe@netexpress.net

REYNALDO
06-01-2010, 01:11 PM
THANKS FRED!!!! got it.

GONEHAWKN
06-01-2010, 02:08 PM
GOT IT!! Thanks Fred........

Mike O
06-01-2010, 05:07 PM
Here's a link to a pdf file of the article that is the subject of this thread.

"Raising Imprint Merlins" by Charles H. Schwartz and Martha Browne, HAWK CHALK Vol XVII No 1., April 1978

http://www.netexpress.net/~okeefe/Temp/Merlin%20Imprinting.pdf

Joby
06-03-2010, 10:40 PM
Thanks Guys!

JeffNH
04-13-2011, 12:09 PM
Can't be left out!

noreastfalconer@aol.com

czarkos
04-13-2011, 07:49 PM
if you wouldn't mind me too please.

calderzarkos@gmail.com

JRedig
04-13-2011, 09:51 PM
Click on the link in mike o's post and just download it guys...;)

stavros_
04-14-2011, 09:29 AM
Many thanks!

Pedioecetes
04-14-2011, 11:33 AM
Which article is this and from where? Might save you some time if others could just look it up.

Saluqi
04-14-2011, 11:38 AM
Which article is this and from where? Might save you some time if others could just look it up.

Hi Bob,

It's called "Raising Imprint Merlins" by Charles Schwartz and Martha Browne, from Hawk Chalk Vol XVII, no. 1 April 1978. If you click on the link in post 66 of this thread you can read and save the article to your computer's hard drive.

PeteJ
04-14-2011, 12:31 PM
It is also pretty close to the description of how to raise imprint falcons in Bruce Haak's book "The Hunting Falcon".
FYI: One of the things that both the article and book do not do is to suggest keeping the eyas on ground food until you are absolutely sure they can always get enough to eat from whole carcasses. This is where most people make the biggest error in raising them when they misinterpret that the bird seems to be reducing its appetite when in fact it simply is not yet strong enough to regularly consume enough food to keep their manners in check. With some birds I have raised I was continuing to bring food along that was chopped (at least) when the birds were still being tame hacked....just to be able to top them off if they had been called in to feed on a carcass or baggie.

JeffNH
05-23-2014, 12:42 PM
Alas the link has died...Can someone email me a copy please?

jeff_miraj@yahoo.com

the_falco
05-23-2014, 02:38 PM
As mentioned, the link is not working. Can i please get a copy?
christhunborg@gmail.com

Thanks

FredFogg
05-24-2014, 11:31 AM
I have a badly scanned copy of it and will try and email it to you all later when I get my laptop out, in the mtns for the weekend.

FredFogg
05-25-2014, 12:13 PM
I sent it but may I suggest to others that if you aren't NAFA members, you should join and then you can purchase for only $10 the dvd of all the past NAFA Hawk Chalks and Journals from the NAFA store. The articles in all those past HC's and Journals is worth the $45 fee of joining NAFA, in my opinion.