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MadAustringer
08-22-2010, 07:40 PM
Hi all. Since I am 'puter challenged I am gonna take the opportunity to post some pics that my wife has taken of the team while I have my wife here to help me get them posted! These were all taken by my wife Melissa.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2790/4144209955_b074553987.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/binah06/4144209955/)


These were taken in the So Cal desert last year.
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These were taken while flying at a vineyard last year.

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Training in Santa Cruz, Ca

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Here are a few of my friend flying with me in San Jose, Ca.

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Here are a couple close ups of the birds we have been flying this year.

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Oh, I found one of Chaser. Here is our pointer after a long day.

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And here is one at work...

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Hope you enjoyed them! There is more if you want them.. Great Hawkin'
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binah06/4144209955/in/set-72157607165289972/

YARAK191
08-22-2010, 07:53 PM
sweet

Flight
08-22-2010, 09:26 PM
That pic of vinny is classic! :D

MadAustringer
08-22-2010, 11:27 PM
Thanks guys! Melissa makes me look pretty cool.:D

great hawkin

BramVC
08-23-2010, 02:55 AM
Nice pics but I just love the one of the HH, got that distinctive killer look about it rockon

MadAustringer
08-29-2010, 03:10 PM
Vinney is my favorite to take pictures of. He almost seems to pose for me. Glad you all enjoyed them. Never thought I would be taking pics of falcons and hawks though. Pretty cool!
Thanks,
Melissa

sharpster
09-01-2010, 03:34 PM
what mundane places you fly your birds-NOT!!!!!
do you have any bother flying the longwings near the phone/power lines?or do they see the lines easily enough?also are you 'bird scaring' in the vineyards?
great looking birds mate-dave sharpe

Steve L.
09-01-2010, 04:16 PM
Do you intentionally feed your birds backward on the fist?confusedd

jfseaman
09-02-2010, 01:00 AM
Do you intentionally feed your birds backward on the fist?confusedd
Is it important?

redtailsrule
09-02-2010, 01:19 AM
Do you intentionally feed your birds backward on the fist?confusedd


I do it all the time, when handling a mantling bird with her tail all screwed up on my wrist cause she is trying to face away from me I will turn her more and hold her tail all together to save her tail. Its a really annoying saker thing, I know my peregrines don't do that.

Steve L.
09-02-2010, 09:12 AM
Is it important?

It depends if you care how others perceive you I guess.

Steve L.
09-02-2010, 09:15 AM
I do it all the time, when handling a mantling bird with her tail all screwed up on my wrist cause she is trying to face away from me I will turn her more and hold her tail all together to save her tail. Its a really annoying saker thing, I know my peregrines don't do that.


I've trained and handled sakers before and I haven't encountered this problem. Maybe I was just lucky.

jfseaman
09-02-2010, 10:13 AM
It depends if you care how others perceive you I guess.
Ahh, that very falconer thing of judging someone to be imperfect and feeling superior by it.boxingg No I don't really care what 'others' think, I do care if 'others' want to make constructive suggestions.clapp

Now to answer your question, no these birds are not trained to eat backwards on the glove.

These are abatement birds and are flown a great deal. Some of these are pictures at work and some are off season pictures getting the birds going again or just flying them on days off.

The white bird is a pig, a sweet heart but a total pig. If you try to turn him to sit properly, he will turn the other way.

The sakerette almost died 3 times from some crude he came out of the chamber with. As a result he is very food possessive and will do the same thing sometimes. He is a tiny thing flying at around 610 grams, his older brother flew at 720 grams. During his illness 3 times he was below 560.

The impature tiercel, as just off creance and before his weight was brought up.

The barbary falcon is one that redtailsrule had also worked with at a different abatement company. She is the mother to my tiercel Barbary/Taita.

The only bird that MadAustringer trained from the beginning is the sakerette. Almost dieing surely played with his head a bit. All the other birds were trained by someone else.

So your 'perception' is provided in a total vacuum of knowledge and has little bearing on the real world.crazyy

Of course my perception that you are agressive in your method of inquiry. Perhaps that was not your intent.;);)

jfseaman
09-02-2010, 10:17 AM
I've trained and handled sakers before and I haven't encountered this problem. Maybe I was just lucky.
Please explain why this is a 'problem'.toungeout

RyanVZ
09-02-2010, 11:24 AM
Nice pics. Flying in Vineyards with those wires all over and near powerlines do you not have problem with your birds hitting those? Just curious. I've had some close calls with barbwire and powerlines in the past and they are far more spread out here than what it appears in those pics. Thanks for the info.

Steve L.
09-02-2010, 03:55 PM
Ahh, that very falconer thing of judging someone to be imperfect and feeling superior by it.boxingg No I don't really care what 'others' think, I do care if 'others' want to make constructive suggestions.clapp

Now to answer your question, no these birds are not trained to eat backwards on the glove.

These are abatement birds and are flown a great deal. Some of these are pictures at work and some are off season pictures getting the birds going again or just flying them on days off.

The white bird is a pig, a sweet heart but a total pig. If you try to turn him to sit properly, he will turn the other way.

The sakerette almost died 3 times from some crude he came out of the chamber with. As a result he is very food possessive and will do the same thing sometimes. He is a tiny thing flying at around 610 grams, his older brother flew at 720 grams. During his illness 3 times he was below 560.

The impature tiercel, as just off creance and before his weight was brought up.

The barbary falcon is one that redtailsrule had also worked with at a different abatement company. She is the mother to my tiercel Barbary/Taita.

The only bird that MadAustringer trained from the beginning is the sakerette. Almost dieing surely played with his head a bit. All the other birds were trained by someone else.

So your 'perception' is provided in a total vacuum of knowledge and has little bearing on the real world.crazyy

Of course my perception that you are agressive in your method of inquiry. Perhaps that was not your intent.;);)



Your sensitivity on the subject is very telling. My inquiry had no malice intended or implied. I apologize if you perceived it that way. I think we've both made our points. If your interested in my constructive advise please feel free to PM me.

jfseaman
09-03-2010, 12:11 AM
Your sensitivity on the subject is very telling. My inquiry had no malice intended or implied. I apologize if you perceived it that way. I think we've both made our points. If your interested in my constructive advise please feel free to PM me.Hi Steve,


I don't see how my 'sensitivity' could tell you anything, I didn't train any of these birds. I know them all, have flown them all except the Augur.

Please tell us all what you've learned from my sensitivity?toungeout

Please provide your constructive suggestions in public.boxinggboxingg

I'm really curious how you can deduce from a few photos the errors in training, management and history of a couple birds.crazyy What life experiences have you had that make you so super human. :eek:

Please excuse me if there is something I should know about you that I don't, you could be the original falconer and I'm just to dumb to be aware of it.stupd

jfseaman
09-03-2010, 12:16 AM
Nice pics. Flying in Vineyards with those wires all over and near powerlines do you not have problem with your birds hitting those? Just curious. I've had some close calls with barbwire and powerlines in the past and they are far more spread out here than what it appears in those pics. Thanks for the info.
Flying around the vineyards can be challenging but unlike hunting, the birds are in the same territory every day and as the local wild raptor do, learn the features in detail and fun of fun, how to exploit them. :D

I did have one female Peales that just didn't get fences. She eventually learned to just hit the brakes, hang on to the fence until it stopped shaking, jump down and return to the lure or continue on her quest. She was never going fast or stooping around the fences so it never caused any problems, she just didn't seem to grock themcrazyy

MadAustringer
09-03-2010, 11:27 AM
Steve, I took your initial inquiry and your responses in the same vein as Fred has, so it must be something in "the tone" of your post, rather than any misguided perception on Fred's part. My response would have been much the same as what Fred wrote.

Just so you can sleep ok tonight, I will promise you that most of the time all the birds in the photos do eat off the fist facing their falconer. But, as Redtailsrule explained previously, when a bird is trying to smash its tail all up on my wrist I simply hold the train to prevent tail damage. It works well. I have kept Coops without any tail protector using that technique.

My beautiful wife prefers to take picks of birds eating when they are facing the camera instead of when they are facing their falconer because she feels the pics are a bit more exciting and interesting, thus the frequency of that sort of feeding pic in our collection.

Here is an example of holding the tail...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2513/4125842441_6265026204.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/binah06/4125842441/)
Tom with Peregrine Falcon Demeter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/binah06/4125842441/) by binah06 (http://www.flickr.com/people/binah06/), on Flickr

MadAustringer
09-03-2010, 12:01 PM
what mundane places you fly your birds-NOT!!!!!
do you have any bother flying the longwings near the phone/power lines?or do they see the lines easily enough?also are you 'bird scaring' in the vineyards?
great looking birds mate-dave sharpe

Thanks! I learned falconry flying in this desert here. This is where we flew after the vineyard for a couple of months. Its the same desert Kyle (redtailsrule) flies Izzy in.

One trick Fred has taught me to decrease the chance of a bad collision with wires is to let a new bird encounter the wires at very slow speeds. (knock on wood) I have not had a real collision yet. Wing tips grazed the wires once or twice but nothing more.
.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4954538646_8fc608d64f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/binah06/4954538646/)
Tom with Demeter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/binah06/4954538646/) by binah06 (http://www.flickr.com/people/binah06/), on Flickr

Now I am flying in central california. Its just as neat of a location and much greener here. Don't have many pics of that yet.

great hawkin' to ya

Dirthawking
09-03-2010, 02:16 PM
I have to ask, not that is not an awsome hard hat.......what gives?q

MadAustringer
09-03-2010, 03:27 PM
I have to ask, not that is not an awsome hard hat.......what gives?q


That bird has nearly killed her last two falconers. I am the only one brave/foolish enough to fly her.


No, not really. But that sounded cooler than the truth. I was training her for a new job that required hard hats and I thought she should get used to it before show time.:D I have had that hard hat for years, I got it when I was a building contractor. I love that hat.

great hawkin'

jfseaman
09-05-2010, 01:37 PM
Got Chinese food last night with of course fortune cookie.


Your personality is great; use it proudly - don't debate

Hmmmm, think they know something about me. :eek:

Perhaps I should follow the advice on this one, also should buy a lottery ticket with the numbers. :D

james morrisontoxic2
11-21-2010, 11:55 AM
nice pics mate

johntomo
11-22-2010, 10:21 AM
how come you lot have these nice deserts and what not to go flyin' in and i have to walk through fields full of needles crack pipes and burnt out cars? guess its just part of the beautiful yorkshire countryside.

jfseaman
11-22-2010, 01:15 PM
how come you lot have these nice deserts and what not to go flyin' in and i have to walk through fields full of needles crack pipes and burnt out cars? guess its just part of the beautiful yorkshire countryside.

It's a Yorkshire thing mate. ;)

dirtwinger
11-22-2010, 09:13 PM
how come you lot have these nice deserts and what not to go flyin' in and i have to walk through fields full of needles crack pipes and burnt out cars? guess its just part of the beautiful yorkshire countryside.
you would love flying around Albuquerque then all of the above plus homeless camps, idiots sighting in their rifles and recently serial killers mass graves of dead hookers!

YARAK191
11-22-2010, 10:35 PM
Whats wrong with a few dead hookers?

ClaytonBoyd84
11-22-2010, 11:40 PM
awesome!!!!!

johntomo
11-23-2010, 07:22 AM
It's a Yorkshire thing mate. ;)
:Dshame eh.

johntomo
11-23-2010, 07:23 AM
you would love flying around Albuquerque then all of the above plus homeless camps, idiots sighting in their rifles and recently serial killers mass graves of dead hookers!
sounds like heaven.

dirtwinger
11-23-2010, 10:31 AM
sounds like heaven.
I have often thought about paying the hobos with beer to flush game for me!:D