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wesleyc6
10-17-2007, 08:53 PM
http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/coyotecub.jpg
I believe this is a coyote pup
http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/manyhawks.jpg
These are Swainson hawks and each one really looks different. They have the largest variety of colors and markings
http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/oddRT.jpg
This is a RT juvenile I think. I had to look at him for a long time. He is beautiful.

I have one bird I saw that I can't identify and I looked at every photo in both of the large photographic guide books. It had a white tail and no bands on it. It had white crescents on the leading underside of the wings. I am guessing it was maybe an odd ferrug. I am not familiar with them yet, but it isn't like any of the photos in the books.

One last one. This is an adult male prairie I think.
http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/maleprairie.jpg

wilded
10-17-2007, 09:02 PM
Need labels. ET [smilie=eusa_naughty.gif]

everetkhorton
10-17-2007, 09:02 PM
Wes:
What are those on the irragation rig? [smilie=dontknow.gif]

Jimmy
10-17-2007, 09:05 PM
Texas sparrows, Ev.....

wesleyc6
10-17-2007, 09:11 PM
Texas sparrows, Ev.....


Nice one Jimmy. Everything is bigger in Texas

everetkhorton
10-17-2007, 09:14 PM
Wes:
I see the [smilie=bs.gif] from TX has reached GA. [smilie=icon_thumright.gif]

wesleyc6
10-17-2007, 09:22 PM
EV,
GA has plenty of it in stock. Can't you tell [smilie=smileys13.gif] Have you ever seen that many hawks at one time? I saw many more than that together here. I saw as many as 50 in less than an hour easily.

wilded
10-17-2007, 09:28 PM
Wes, I have seen several hundreds a day in October migrations. Here is a link to an article on my Blog.

http://wildedtx.blogspot.com/2007/10/texas-birds-of-prey-migration.html

If you read the counts on the coast and in the valley at Hawk watch stations it is unreal the hawks that funnel through Texas.

Lee Slikkers
10-18-2007, 09:37 AM
http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/coyotecub.jpg
I believe this is a coyote pup


Looks more like a "Dingo" to me [smilie=smileys13.gif] big ears on that pup!

wilded
10-18-2007, 10:37 AM
There are no Dingos in Texas. [smilie=dontknow.gif]

Lee Slikkers
10-18-2007, 10:42 AM
There are no Dingos in Texas. [smilie=dontknow.gif]

Sorry, it was a crappy joke...never mind. (Is it Friday yet?)

everetkhorton
10-18-2007, 11:38 AM
EV,
GA has plenty of it in stock. Can't you tell [smilie=smileys13.gif] Have you ever seen that many hawks at one time? I saw many more than that together here. I saw as many as 50 in less than an hour easily.

Wes:
Only in migration and they are soaring when we see them.

wesleyc6
10-18-2007, 02:44 PM
http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/swainsonfeak.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/flyingswainson.jpg

These are both Swainsons. The first dark morph I saw I thought was a wandering HH. LOL

wesleyc6
10-18-2007, 02:48 PM
There are no Dingos in Texas. [smilie=dontknow.gif]

Sorry, it was a crappy joke...never mind. (Is it Friday yet?)

No Lee, it is Thurs. poor jokes and no calendar. Atleast you have a chicken hawk [smilie=smileys13.gif]

Jimmy
10-18-2007, 03:07 PM
He has a Turken hawk, Wes. Get it right..... [smilie=eusa_clap.gif]

chris kimble
10-18-2007, 07:52 PM
Great pics Wes......but Im pretty sure thats an immy swainsons. Keep the pics coming.

http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/oddRT.jpg

wesleyc6
10-18-2007, 08:01 PM
I went back and forth on it whether it was a RT or Swainson. Let me post another pic or two and see if you still think Swainson. I still am not sure.
http://www.geocities.com/wesleyc6/oddRT2.jpg

wilded
10-18-2007, 08:06 PM
It is not a red-tail [smilie=eusa_doh.gif]

wesleyc6
10-18-2007, 08:13 PM
You think Swainson too Ed? I knew I had never seen a RT with that kind of patterning on the chest, but the head an all just looked more RT than Swainson to me. I am far from an expert bird ID'er though [smilie=eusa_doh.gif]

Eagle Owl
10-18-2007, 08:29 PM
Looks like an immy Swainson's to me, too. The eyes are too dark for it to be a RT and the head is real round like a Swainson's. It also has a very prominent white stripe above the eye that is characteristic of Swainson's as well.

Great pics, by the way [smilie=eusa_clap.gif]

wesleyc6
10-18-2007, 08:37 PM
No wonder it was the oddest RT I had ever seen. Glad you all like the pics. They are all atleast a lightpole away obviously.

sharptail
10-19-2007, 01:57 AM
And your tiercel Prairie turns into a female when you can see the tail on the underside of the cross bar she is perched on. Not everything is bigger in Texas.

kimmerar
10-19-2007, 07:39 AM
So Jeff - what about that tail on the underside. What makes it a female???

awahl
10-19-2007, 08:23 AM
Put me down for Swainsons and female prairie.

wesleyc6
10-19-2007, 09:20 AM
I sure am glad I posted these photos. A good lesson in bird ID'ing! I am convinced on the Swainson now, so explain about the female part on the prairie please. Thanks guys!

gabboon
10-19-2007, 01:02 PM
definitely and immy Swainson's.

My first thought was dingo on the dog. Those are huge ears for a coyote, but ours look different here in the east. I think dingos actually have smaller ears, too.

Lee - i think there are some dingos in TX somewhere. They have everything out there from all those hunting preserves that import all odd sorts of beasts.

wilded
10-19-2007, 01:42 PM
It is just a coyote pup. They have to grow to the ears and feet. [smilie=icon_thumright.gif]

sharptail
10-19-2007, 02:13 PM
Tiercels are smaller and have short tails that do not usually protrude below the cross bar like that. Kind of a funky pianting in N. American Falconry & Hunting Hawks(page 144) but it give you the feel of a tiercel.

My self and my friends have flown a few.

A typical posture on a pole setup like that would be on the cross bar, but up next to the pole... almost hiding, as if part of the pole. I see them on poles like that much less often than females. like most tiercels longwings they are not so dominate and other raptors push them to the more marginal hunting grounds and perching locations, like a very narrow ledge on a cliff that would be too small for a female.

awahl
10-21-2007, 07:47 AM
I commonly see females perching period. I rarely see tiercels percing. Of course they do, but like Jeff said, in other areas. Actually here in Northern California, we see them more commonly on fence lines (on the posts of course). Thats probably a 6X6 crossbar. Too big for a tirercel's tail to show on the bottom, at least that much.

wesleyc6
10-23-2007, 08:34 AM
Looks like an immy Swainson's to me, too. The eyes are too dark for it to be a RT and the head is real round like a Swainson's. It also has a very prominent white stripe above the eye that is characteristic of Swainson's as well.

Great pics, by the way [smilie=eusa_clap.gif]

Found a great pic in my field book here and that is a one year old Swainson. Good eye guys.

wesleyc6
10-23-2007, 08:37 AM
I commonly see females perching period. I rarely see tiercels percing. Of course they do, but like Jeff said, in other areas. Actually here in Northern California, we see them more commonly on fence lines (on the posts of course). Thats probably a 6X6 crossbar. Too big for a tirercel's tail to show on the bottom, at least that much.

Ok, I see what you mean now. That isn't 6 inch wood though. It is 4 inch wood and I was really close to it. He was out that far preening HARD with a big ol crop that you can't appreciate until he turns. So, you may have been using erroneous support info to guess that. Also, I was less than 40 yds from the bird for sure, so I am just under. Probably less than 20 yds, but I can't remember for sure.

sharptail
10-24-2007, 01:04 AM
I commonly see females perching period. I rarely see tiercels percing. Of course they do, but like Jeff said, in other areas. Actually here in Northern California, we see them more commonly on fence lines (on the posts of course). Thats probably a 6X6 crossbar. Too big for a tirercel's tail to show on the bottom, at least that much.

Ok, I see what you mean now. That isn't 6 inch wood though. It is 4 inch wood and I was really close to it. He was out that far preening HARD with a big ol crop that you can't appreciate until he turns. So, you may have been using erroneous support info to guess that. Also, I was less than 40 yds from the bird for sure, so I am just under. Probably less than 20 yds, but I can't remember for sure.

Perhaps you are right, it is just a photo and you were their.

awahl
10-24-2007, 08:24 AM
Sometimes you never know till they are in your hands! Hope your back gets better quickly Wes.

wesleyc6
10-24-2007, 08:44 PM
Yeah, I don't know for sure, but I did go out and look at the elec poles here to see what size wood was used. That is really clever of you guys to use that as a sexing tool. I will keep it in mind!

Thanks Andy!