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    Your previous photos of the cluttered weathering...

    Your previous photos of the cluttered weathering area might be a good place to start looking.
    Those two mid primaries are the ones most likely to take the full force of a developing wing muscle made...
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    Great post thanks for that, I wonder if you...

    Great post thanks for that,

    I wonder if you have had the same conversation with Greg L regarding tame hacked Merlins :) ?
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    Can I ask how much of a significance is the...

    Can I ask how much of a significance is the learning curve in sustaining the Merlins willingness to ring.

    I have flown a number of passage Merlins & found them very much fixed in employing...
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    I have hunted falcons on almost impossible quarry...

    I have hunted falcons on almost impossible quarry (and would take your statement even further to suggest that its possible for a bird to be conditioned as to be mentally invincible that it will...
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    Just to be clear, having re-read this: Your...

    Just to be clear, having re-read this:

    Your suggesting that a ringing flight can be achieved through conditioning even if

    "Appropriate quarry, suitable open ground, confidence, mental attitude"...
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    I should have been more clear in using the term...

    I should have been more clear in using the term "new language"
    I would agree that they are mostly old ideas, but I would also suggest that many of the applications could in many ways be classed as...
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    The problem with theses so termed "new methods"...

    The problem with theses so termed "new methods" is that they are not new, but they are suggested by people who might be "new" to falconry or at least do not have a grasp of its many different styles....
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    For me the maths don't add up. Lets examine the...

    For me the maths don't add up.
    Lets examine the learning curve and its partnership with the motivation to happily apply a work load %

    Juvenile birds already have the workload set far beyond the...
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    Is the same as mine The question was directed...

    Is the same as mine

    The question was directed at Jim to see if we are all following the same picture.
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    I wonder if it might boil down to the personal...

    I wonder if it might boil down to the personal interpretation of what a ringing flight actually is.. and what is required to maintain that behaviour?

    I have to admit to reading his post & often...
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    Wild Merlins of all races do ring quarry until...

    Wild Merlins of all races do ring quarry until the energy efficient & survival learning curve kicks in..

    Motivation is offset by more efficient survival techniques.

    Ringing flights are only...
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    Ringing flights through O/C

    I, and indeed others would appreciate your starting a thread on this.

    All of my ringing flights have very much been dictated by fitness, geography, point of slip and most important... limited...
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    Care to highlight the less obvious ones.. The...

    Care to highlight the less obvious ones..

    The kite is a pretty good example, although the motivation is based on the guarantee (fitness permitting) of the inescapable visual incentive.

    Bit like...
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    Supernormal Stimuli

    Anyone have any examples to share with trained Raptors..

    ie they will demonstrate a higher than natural workload/motivation in order to achieve something "unnatural" as opposed to the workload of...
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    "our language" was more in reference to the...

    "our language" was more in reference to the technical terms bounced between falconers as clear cut terms.


    Atoms & bacteria was more description of "its there, even if you cant see it.

    Its up...
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    There is a document / resource online somewhere...

    There is a document / resource online somewhere of all the recorded accounts of wild hybrids.

    Its very interesting and suggests circumstances & communication dominate visual stimulus
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    Some years ago I was travelling through the atlas...

    Some years ago I was travelling through the atlas & sahara.

    Long story short, the pro/con topic of passage, haggard & imprints came about between falconers of different cultures.

    I watched our...
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    With a proper job I expect! crazyy

    With a proper job I expect! crazyy
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    Its your fault Im still in this game.. lol.....

    Its your fault Im still in this game.. lol.. stupd

    Im sure if my mother knew your influence all those years back she would have cancelled our internet! toungeout
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    I tend to go slightly against the grain with...

    I tend to go slightly against the grain with regards to Imprinting
    I actually Fully food imprint all my birds
    The female spar was Tweezer fed until about 6wks and only allowed to pull her own...
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    Dont get caught up on the Grass is greener page....

    Dont get caught up on the Grass is greener page.

    Your far better off with a Coops. lol
    I know the closest comparisons, Sharpies are generally not as steady as Euro spars, but i think a lot of...
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    Thanks Kevin Hudson valley.. beautiful place.....

    Thanks Kevin

    Hudson valley.. beautiful place..

    Spent some time up there some years back now
    with Heinz Meng & Dona Tracy.
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    Long time Lurker

    Hello all

    Been lurking on & off for a number of years.
    Recently rejoined due to the increasing level of international faces being accepted here.

    Been in to Falconry some years now with my...
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