Fred, I have friends back east that haven't even started flying their birds this season. Here in the west/southwest our season starts in September and we do some usurious hawking by the time the NAFA meet rolls around no matter when it is. I didn't make it to the meet this year because I am catching jacks every day I go out in the field locally. I am planning on making it to the Western Desert Classic meet the 2nd week of December just because its a lot closer to my house than Kansas was.