He was also on the Lars Larson show yesterday. I'll post that link when I get it.
Bridget
The bit of that SoundCloud stream that is relevant to us is begins at the 1:06:00 mark.
Geoff Hirschi - "It is better to have lightning in the fist than thunder in the mouth" Custom made Tail Saver Perches - http://www.myrthwood.com/TieEmHigh/