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    Default NC Peregrine Take!!!

    Bob Pendergrass and I have been back and forth to Raleigh, NC to talk peregrine take with NCWRC so many times in the past several months I am considering new tires for my FJ. Seems our diligence has paid off. Yesterday, myself, Bob, Daren McGrew and Larry Dickerson sat in on the commisioners meeting and found that they supported take - I have been holing my breath to hear tnews of the official vote this morning.

    As NC Falconers Guild Vice President and Easter Director of AFC I wanted to get this up on NAFEX asap. I just got off the phone with Bob Pendergrass (NCFG President) and I am pleased to announced that North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission voted unanimously today to allow Peregrine take on the coast of NC. There are a lot of details that I will be posting on this thread soon. This is just such good news that I wanted to get it out there. There will be two lotteries. One for two birds for NC Falconers only and one lottery for the remaining bird for NC and Non-Resident falconers. I will be posting all the stipulations on take as well as the scheduling for the lottery application asap. I have all the stipulations on take in my possession - the information on the lottery application process should be in my hands in the next week or so.

    This honestly feels like some kind of dream.

    Thanks to ALL who have helped to make this day a reality! Too many to count!

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    CONGRATS!!! Quite the accomplishment!
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    I don't have plans for a peregrine anytime soon, but that is great news!
    Thanks for all the hard work, Jason.
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    i'm IN!!!!! just let me know when to send in the moolah!
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    Congratulations!!! So who gets the credit? AFC or NAFA, both were present right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saluqi View Post
    Congratulations!!! So who gets the credit? AFC or NAFA, both were present right?
    I suspect the NC falconers, good job guys, I know what a process that can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saluqi View Post
    Congratulations!!! So who gets the credit? AFC or NAFA, both were present right?
    It is not my place to give credit. But I will say that this was due to the hard work of a very few NC Falconers. A mere handful of us made all the meetings and worked our tails off to make this happen. Did some of us consult reps from AFC and NAFA early on in the process? Yes.

    But the truth is that we succeeded due to the wonderful relationship with have with NCWRC. This relationship is a direct result of the years of work that NCFG officers and members have put in to develop that relationship.

    I am an NCFG Officer, an AFC Director and a NAFA member. So...I say this is a victory for falconry. Period. AFC, NAFA, Peregrine Fund, NCFG and more falconers than I could list have been working on this for decades. To give credit to one group or individual would be folly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericedw View Post
    I suspect the NC falconers, good job guys, I know what a process that can be.
    Ha! Yes Eric... you posted as I was typing! You know more than most!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhausman View Post
    It is not my place to give credit. But I will say that this was due to the hard work of a very few NC Falconers. A mere handful of us made all the meetings and worked our tails off to make this happen. Did some of us consult reps from AFC and NAFA early on in the process? Yes.

    But the truth is that we succeeded due to the wonderful relationship with have with NCWRC. This relationship is a direct result of the years of work that NCFG officers and members have put in to develop that relationship.

    I am an NCFG Officer, an AFC Director and a NAFA member. So...I say this is a victory for falconry. Period. AFC, NAFA, Peregrine Fund, NCFG and more falconers than I could list have been working on this for decades. To give credit to one group or individual would be folly.

    Jason
    Sorry Jason, I was throwing stones. I get so tired of this group or that group spouting off their accomplishments when we're all working for a common goal.

    I'm envious of you guys with a passage take, and as one who has exercised their right to eyas peregrine let me tell you there have been few things as exciting as taking a peregrine from the wild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saluqi View Post
    Sorry Jason, I was throwing stones. I get so tired of this group or that group spouting off their accomplishments when we're all working for a common goal.

    I'm envious of you guys with a passage take, and as one who has exercised their right to eyas peregrine let me tell you there have been few things as exciting as taking a peregrine from the wild.
    All good brother!
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    Paul, I agree with the excitement of taking an eyas peregrine from the wild. I only had my female for about 4 months before losing her when I had the heart attack, but, what a thrill it was from the moment I got the permit to take one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bgibson View Post
    i'm IN!!!!! just let me know when to send in the moolah!
    Ok Ben, when we go trapping for "OUR" peregrines, do you want a falcon or a tiercel? LOL Can't wait to get the information on the lottery process! Definately a historic day for all falconers and especially, NC falconers! I have no idea if I will do one justice, but I sure will give it my all if I am one of the 3.
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    Thanks for all the hard work, very well done!
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    Hey, I did the first peregrine release in NC at Grandfather Mountain in 1984...do I get the honorary first permit to trap one? Seems only fair.
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    very cool stuff, congrats NC falconers and excellent work Jason / crew involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryant Tarr View Post
    Hey, I did the first peregrine release in NC at Grandfather Mountain in 1984...do I get the honorary first permit to trap one? Seems only fair.
    How about if we let you be the first non-resident to enter the lottery, that sounds fair! LOL
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    Doggone it, Jason! I TOLD ya not to let Fred know about this opportunity!! It's gonna be crowded with all sorts of riffraff down there on the Coast in Sept.





    Quote Originally Posted by FredFogg View Post
    Ok Ben, when we go trapping for "OUR" peregrines, do you want a falcon or a tiercel? LOL Can't wait to get the information on the lottery process! Definately a historic day for all falconers and especially, NC falconers! I have no idea if I will do one justice, but I sure will give it my all if I am one of the 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FredFogg View Post
    Ok Ben, when we go trapping for "OUR" peregrines, do you want a falcon or a tiercel? LOL Can't wait to get the information on the lottery process! Definately a historic day for all falconers and especially, NC falconers! I have no idea if I will do one justice, but I sure will give it my all if I am one of the 3.
    i want a female!!!! i have a small duck and dove killer...i need a mallard buster!
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    i'm just wondering where i'm gonna come up with the 5 bucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by bgibson View Post
    i'm just wondering where i'm gonna come up with the 5 bucks
    I'll spot you brother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCFalconer View Post
    Doggone it, Jason! I TOLD ya not to let Fred know about this opportunity!! It's gonna be crowded with all sorts of riffraff down there on the Coast in Sept.

    Sorry D, I blew it.
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    Default NC Peregrine Take Particulars

    some particulars are as follows:

    - only juvenile birds may be taken (of course)
    - banded birds must be released immediately onsite
    -2 of the 3 permits reserved for NC residents, 3rd open to ALL falconers in US, particpants to be determined by lottery
    -all other falconry permits and licenses must be current
    -birds must be taken east of HWY 17
    -trapping must occur between Sept 20th and Oct 20th
    - a post activity survey must be completed and retruned to NCWRC
    - a feather sample must be collected and sent to NCWRC for potential natal analysis for scientific study
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    Jason, just out of curiousity. Do you have any specifics on the feather sample. What feathers are they looking for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirthawking View Post
    Jason, just out of curiousity. Do you have any specifics on the feather sample. What feathers are they looking for?
    You know, I am not totally sure. Although, I believe when they are looking for samples like this they only need a small feather... say from the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirthawking View Post
    Jason, just out of curiousity. Do you have any specifics on the feather sample. What feathers are they looking for?
    Mario,
    This is a USFWS requirement.

    "
    We will require
    collection of two breast feathers from all peregrines harvested during the first three
    years after implementation of the proposed action. At the end of three years, the
    feathers will be assessed using accepted techniques for stable isotope or DNA analysis
    to determine if the predicted latitudinal derivation of the harvest is being achieved,
    within reasonable limits given expected levels of measurement and sampling error.
    Should sufficient feathers be collected, these analyses may be used to test the origins
    of birds harvested under any alternative that allows take of migrant first-year birds."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhausman View Post
    You know, I am not totally sure. Although, I believe when they are looking for samples like this they only need a small feather... say from the back.
    Just hope they don't ask for a deck/train or a primary!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhausman View Post
    I'll spot you brother!
    THANKS PAL!
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    i say the 2 lucky ducks and non-resident lucky duck (if feasible) go to the coast together and "GET THEM BIRDS!" like the 3 muskateers..... we don't leave until everyone has their prize! PLUS a merlin or two
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    sign me up for a Merlin Ben...and someone ought to do a story/photo op of the whole experience and have the article submitted to the American Falconry Mag and the AFC publication...in addition to the "free Merlin" I've volunteer to do the pictoral and essay for the event. Just some food for though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bgibson View Post
    i say the 2 lucky ducks and non-resident lucky duck (if feasible) go to the coast together and "GET THEM BIRDS!" like the 3 muskateers..... we don't leave until everyone has their prize! PLUS a merlin or two
    I will be there to film the entire thing, Lee grab your camera as well !!! I will bring the cold beer too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L. View Post
    I will be there to film the entire thing!!! I will bring the cold beer as well

    Damn, guess that trumps my offer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Slikkers View Post
    Damn, guess that trumps my offer...
    No way man, you bring MORE beer.. never enough!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L. View Post
    No way man, you bring MORE beer.. never enough!!

    SOLD, when are the dates???
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCFalconer View Post
    Doggone it, Jason! I TOLD ya not to let Fred know about this opportunity!! It's gonna be crowded with all sorts of riffraff down there on the Coast in Sept.

    Hey Daren, shhhhhh, don't tell anyone, but I already know where to go! LOL We had 3 hit our nets when we were there trapping a merlin in 2006.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FredFogg View Post
    Hey Daren, shhhhhh, don't tell anyone, but I already know where to go!
    I bet I know where your going Fred<G>

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