Ok this might be like comparing chalk with cheese. If that is indeed the case please excuse my ignorance. I have followed OC/Clicker Training on the periphery and have played with it with my first MHH - I managed to get him to do a 360 degree turn on the glove to obtain a tidbit hidden in the glove- but didn't take this type of training any further. I have just finished reading Mike McDermotts book 'The Imprint Accipiter II' for the third time and am impressed by his level of success. My question is - could OC techniques be applied to train an imprint accipiter with equal or better results than The Recipe? Cheers Malcolm edgar