thanks alex, well i didn't get to go then but will be leaving tommorow or tuesday.i know its really hot for trapping ,but have that itch.just thought id through this thread back up to see if anyone might have seen numbers of hh's in any particular area of south texas. will be starting in webb county and working south and a little east on 359 (thanks abner) any help would be great,thanks to all.willing to travel